CafeTran

>The problem is that the packages always come with an online TM and a termbase. I already figured out that I can convert the online TM to a TMX in Trados, and then use it in Cafetran.

This is a bit complicated, so is there a way around?

Sorry, but no.

Suggestion: try to create an exclusive working relation with your client, so that you only have to do this conversion once.

Only on the XLIFF file.

But hey, which QA categories are you missing in CafeTran Espresso 2018?

Indeed. I actually also own a licence for Xbench, but never use it for QA, as CafeTran does everything I need. 

Also, if you ever find something is missing, Igor usually adds it to CafeTran's already formidable arsenal of QA modules pretty quickly, assuming he feels it would be of some use ... and you ask him nicely.

Michael

>assuming he feels it would be of some use ... and you ask him nicely.

That's interesting, I have never thought that Espresso does a better QA than Trados. I have to try it out, so I can save two licenses in the future. Apparently there is no way round Trados for the extraction of the packages, but at least I don't need a new license for it. It won't work to make an arrangement with my customer.

>Apparently there is no way round Trados for the extraction of the packages

Firstly: CafeTran Espresso 2018 will open them automatically

Secondly: Of course you can open these packages without Studio and extract the relevant info yourself.

I finally found time to use Cafetran for a small SDL package, and I am still loving it. However, there occured wone problem:

The original file had a lot of segments in the status "Signed off". After I translated it with Espresso and reopened it in Trados, the status of these segments turned to "Translated". This causes a problem, because I don't know which segments I translated and which not.

Thanks for the help!

Here's some Info edited from the FIle Formats reference file: https://github.com/idimitriadis0/TheCafeTranFiles/wiki/4-File-formats#sdlppx

For external projects, the Export button becomes Finalize in CafeTran’s segments grid. This sets the TRANSLATED status to all target segments and saves the project (Note: They appear as Translated in SDL Trados, and as Checked in CafeTran). Generally, this step should be performed prior to delivering the files. 

Note: If you need to keep a different status for some segments than the translated status, DON'T use the Finalize button. Instead, filter the segments you want to set as Translated, and apply the Task > Set translated status for target segments.

For packages, you also need to export the package (or return package) back via Project > Export and exchange > To Package.

OK, for packages, I *think* Export to Package also sets the status to Translated for SDL Trados (Checked in CafeTran), not sure. I always use Finalize, then Export to Package.

If the above is true, I don't really how to set selective status for packages. In that case, unless Igor has more accurate information, it could make sense to translate the sdlxliff files instead (expand the package, it's just a compressed file). The Multiple files workflow can be used then (open all sdlxliff files in a folder), and SDLTM/SDLTB still imported via Memory > Import submenu.

Here's another workaround I just thought, NOT TESTED: If the signed-off segments have a different status that the to be translated segments in CafeTran, then filter these by status (Filter > Status submenu), and use Task > Lock segments. These are only locked for the CafeTran session, not in Studio (or if you restart CafeTran). Normally, locked segments should not get the Translated status when you finalize file or export to package. Please confirm this if you test it.

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Warning: Status information may have changed since, especially for segments with the Checked/Approved status in Studio, see here : https://github.com/idimitriadis0/TheCafeTranFiles/wiki/0-ChangeLog#2018-forerunner-20171130

So, again from the FIle Formats reference file:

Signed-off segments in SDL Trados have the Checked status in CafeTran.

Complete Sign-off (marked with PM and a lock in SDL Trados) have the Locked status in CafeTran. 

If you mark Studio segments as Locked in CafeTran, this status is active for the current CT session only. The CafeTran status does not interfere with the locked segment status (Complete sign-off) that is set in Studio by the project manager.

 Here's another workaround I just thought, NOT TESTED: If the signed-off segments have a different status that the to be translated segments in CafeTran, then filter these by status (Filter > Status submenu), and use Task > Lock segments. These are only locked for the CafeTran session, not in Studio (or if you restart CafeTran). Normally, locked segments should not get the Translated status when you finalize file or export to package. Please confirm this if you test it.

I have to try it when I have time, but as I remember the segments with the status "signed-off" have the status "not translated" in Espresso.

Now I have another problem with the Trados package in Espresso:

When I open the package in Espresso, it will creat a SDL Trados Studio Project File (.sdlproj). I am not able to open this file with Trados. I get the message "The selected project could not be opened." every time I try. Any idea how to solve this?

OK, just did a test, and here are some Trados statuses as mapped in CafeTran.

Signed off segments are being displayed as "Checked" in CafeTran (grey background), and Translated as "Approved" (gray background, red frame).

So yes, you can try the following workaround:

- (Optional) Filter the signed-off segments by status (Filter > Status submenu), and use Task > Lock segments. The lock is for the session only.

- (Optional) You can uncheck Action > Skip > Locked segments if you wish so.

- Translate the non signed-off segments, those that do not have the grey background.

- Filter the translated segments, and use Task > Set Approved (translated) status to these segments.

DO NOT hit the Finalize button, as it will set the status to all segments.

At any rate, please test and report back.

Also, I don't think there is a way to do this for packages. It requires manually expanding them and translating the included SDLXLIFF or SDLXLIFFs (in the second case, via Dashboard button > Multiple documents projects).

Igor, can you confirm if there is another way to export Trados packages while preserving some segment statuses?

Jean

Yes, I understand the logic. Anyway, it is always possible to translate the SDLXLIFF files instead, so the workaround exists, if someone needs to preserve some statuses.

Please note reviewers/proofreaders are normally expected to use the "Translation approved" (and "Translation rejected") statuses in SDL Trados. "Translation approved" cannot be set or displayed from inside CafeTran, for review/proofreading jobs.

You are not supposed to open this single file (.sdlproj) in Trados. You can only open the whole translated package after exporting the translation back to package  via Project > Export and exchange > To package..