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CafeTran Espresso 2017 - Yeddi Update 3
I understand that you align two files. In the manual alignment workflow, "Join source segments" or "Join target segments" work independently for either source or target segments at the head of alignment, that is, for new and unaligned segments only. However, if you move back to the already aligned segment, then joining segments affects both the source and the target segment at the same time.
Thanks for the quick reply.
In that scenario - how is one to adjust alignments that are off on one side, and not on the other?
Say for example when importing, the Japanese segment was originally segmented into one sentence - but the English one was segmented into two sentences. After splitting the Japanese one to make two sentences and copying the text from the area below, to the blank space above it (that the English one has due to the Japanese being split) I'm constantly left with a blank space that I have to then copy up for each space thereafter... which, if I were able to merge just the English column up would streamline the entire process and make it a whole lot easier.
Any suggestions to go about this? (Since we're going off topic, I could always make a new thread - let me know.)
Thanks for the screenshots. They show you have selected the automatic alignment method (no split documents tab visible). In the automatic alignment, CafeTran assumes that two documents have the same structure,that is, each source segment corresponds to the target segment. With this automatic method, joining and splitting functions affect both source and target simultaneously However, if you choose the default manual alignment, you can control the process (align the segments) ''as you go'' - navigating forward, joining and splitting either source or target or both, thus streamlining the process much more comfortably. Please choose the manual alignment and you should be able to achieve what you wish.
Thanks a lot, Igor!
Hi Igor, sorry to revive an old topic - but I really don't think the joining/splitting portion of aligning documents works as well as it should. Like for example, I'm going through this document - and one sentence is like this:
穂乃果の家はおまんじゅうやさんなんだ♪遊びに来てね？
However, in English - since I don't use the ♪ mark it just ends up being this:
My family is a Japanese candy maker.
So I need to split the Japanese - which I do. - Then, ideally, I click on join target segments - in which it moves the English up into the blank space, but it doesn't.
What am I doing wrong? What can be done to make this a tad bit smoother/easier process? ._.
If I understand the desired result well:
1. Place the cursor at the splitting point in the source segment.
2. Place the cursor at the start of the target segment (marking the split position in the target segment).
3. Just split.
You should end up as you wish (no joining is necessary).
BTW, you might update CafeTran. Your screenshot shows the (up-down) division of the source and target documents in the tab. The new version divides the documents view left-right.
Hi Igor, the way you write makes it seem like I can have two cursors placed at two different points?
What I'll do is make a video of how I'm working and you can see where I'm having issues :).
As for the version, I'm using the latest one (updated before doing the screenshot) - perhaps it's not showing correctly for some reason...?
> the way you write makes it seem like I can have two cursors placed at two different points?
Yes, that's exactly my point. Before you make a split, you can place the cursor at the splitting positions both in the current source and target segment. CafeTran performs two splits simultaneously.
Your version is correct. You may need to set the "Vertical tabs divider" after right-clicking at the aligned documents tab and restart the program, or disjoin the tabs and join them again with the changed option.
Igor Kmitowski
Hello everyone,
CafeTran Espresso 2017 Yeddi update 3 is available for download. The update can be performed via the Drag & Drop procedure as follows:
1. Run CafeTran.
2. Download 20170310_update.zip file from here (do not unzip or rename the file after downloading) and place it on your desktop.
Note: On Mac OSX, the Safari web browser may unzip the file automatically after downloading. To prevent this, just use the right-click menu and choose the "Download Linked File" command.
3. Drag and drop the downloaded file into the Project Dashboard and restart the program.
Alternatively, you can install the update via the Update button in the Help > About panel instead of dragging and dropping.
What's new:
Enjoy your weekend,
Igor
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