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CafeTran with embedded Java

In a thread about Proz's new Plus package ( http://www.proz.com/forum/dutch/309959-ik_ben_benieuwd_hoe_de_nieuwe_proz_initiatieven_onder_nederlandstalige_gebruikers_vallen.html ) CafeTran is mentioned as "too complicated ". Soit... // What's worse, is the statement that Java is "technology from the past". For the sake of implicity, I'd like to repeat me request to invest in a Year 2017 version of CafeTran with embedded Java. Just like Minecraft.

The latest version of  CafeTran Espresso 10 - Croissant can run on both the integrated and system Java. If you prefer to have it run on the integrated Java runtime, you need to reinstall the program - uninstall, download and install again.  Currently, the program runs on Java 12 (https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/12-relnote-issues-5211422.html), and Java 13 in the near future.  

Any updates anyway?

Thanks

 Is that true that CafeTran Espresso 2019 comes with an integrated Java runtime now? How can I migrate to the new app? I was planning to look for new translation tools.

No information how to do it in the latest news post Using CTE with the integrated Java program write my paper runtime. What security fixes have been mentioned? 

Just found that Java has been embedded in this new CAT tool BasicCAT too. First time that I installed such a package with embedded Java (did so before, on Windows).


I must say: very elegant and intuitive.


I'm happy that 2019 will be the year to come.

IK: Watch out! There is always a bigger fish. :)


I know. And I couldn't care less.


H.

the lower life forms!


Watch out! There is always a bigger fish. :)

IK: In December 2015, Google announced that Android Nougat would switch its JRE (Java Runtime Environment) from the defunct Apache Harmony to OpenJDK


For a good reason. The filth of Mountain View, the backward little advertising company, STOLE Java from SUN/Oracle. And the only, ONLY, reason for it is the law suit. DEATH to the lower life forms!


H.

Yes, Android is a strong Java flavor:


"In December 2015, Google announced that Android Nougat would switch its JRE (Java Runtime Environment) from the defunct Apache Harmony to OpenJDK—the official open source implementation of the Java platform maintained by Oracle Corporation and the Java community."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Nougat

IK: ...quick judgement based on the least important criteria such as the choice of the programming language.


It's much worse. SDL blamed their failing Multiterm on Java, so now the middle of the road people are against Java. The funny thing is that Multiterm still uses Java for some things, and the very same middle of the road people use exploding Android (stolen from Java) phones, without exception.


H.

Okay, thank you! Sometimes I find it quite funny when people make quick judgement based on the least important criteria such as the choice of the programming language. It looks like a comfortable excuse for personal attitudes and biases. 

Yes, that was I wrote in my previous posting here. Anyway. Here's my reply to Channa at Proz:


[quote]Channa Montijn wrote:


Het nieuwe CAT tool is volgens mij meer gedoe dan wat voor tools dan ook... ik werk prima met Studio en MemoQ en was natuurlijk benieuwd naar het nieuwste van het nieuwste... pff. Misschien heb ik te vlug gelezen, maar Java installeren? Daar waren we toch net vanaf.  [/quote]


CafeTran is <b>niet moeilijker</b> dan een andere CAT-tool – wel <i>anders van opzet</i> (wat onder andere in snellere bewerkingen resulteert). 


Misschien is je oordeel gebaseerd op het feit dat je geen gelikte documentatie kon vinden? Enerzijds is er nog steeds geen allesomvattende gebruiksaanwijzing, anderzijds is er genoeg informatie te vinden om te kunnen starten. En ook de CafeTran-gebruikersgroep is zeer hulpvaardig.


Dan je opmerking over Java. Ik neem aan dat je je mening baseert op twee zaken uit het verleden:

<ul>

<li> De voorheen gebrekkige integratie van MultiTerm in Studio, die via Java was gerealiseerd.

<li> Java plug-ins voor browsers die kwaadwillenden toegang tot je computer boden.

</ul>

Voor beide problemen is inmiddels een oplossing gevonden (voor het tweede luidt die: nooit Java plug-ins installeren in je browser).


Java is de populairste programmeertaal die er is (zie bijv. <a href="http://m.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Programmiersprache-des-Jahres-ist-Java-3583597.html">Heise over Java</a>). Dat is ook niet gek, want het maakt het mogelijk om programma's te ontwikkelen die zowel op Macs, pc's als Linux-computers draaien. Ook Wordfast LLC heeft voor Java gekozen: een verstandige keuze.


I think that it's important to note that the thread starter is declared advocate and trainer of Wordfast, who has attacked me as a CafeTran fan in the past. (Postings were removed by Proz, because of very insulting language.)

What's worse, is the statement that Java is "technology from the past".


It's actually quite the opposite when you look at the statistics for the programming language popularity in recent years. Java leads them all comfortably enough. 

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