I'm trying to align a document with "automatic" segmentation in order to work faster. It looks good, but there are some misalignments. I thought the "join source" and "join target" buttons would work only for "source" OR "target" segment, but if I try to join two source segments, the target segments get joined too and I can't solve the misalignment issue. Why don't the 2 buttons work independently? It is impossible to correctly the alignment this why...
Thanks for your help, cheers,
What CafeTran version are you using? You can check it in the Help > About > Product version. Make sure you choose "Progressive segmentation" when you create an alignment project. The independent source and target joining works as you go along and segment both texts. This action of joining source and target independently cannot be performed after the segments have been created. The automatic alignment option should be chosen on some rare texts where source text segments correspond exactly to target text segments.
I'm using the newest version (2017201201). I do use the "progressive segmentation" option to have control over the texts. And still, the buttons seem to not work.
It is an older version. Please complete your unfinished projects and then update the program as described here: https://cafetran.freshdesk.com/discussions/topics/6000051420
Okay, I will, thank you.
The Automatic segmentation in the Alignment workflow should be used for the documents where each next source segment corresponds to each next target segment. Then, CafeTran can create an aligned bilingual project with one click but you don't have much choice to correct the alignments afterwards. However, if you choose the progressive segmentation (the default option), you have the whole range of options (see the alignment toolbar that appears) to control the alignment process. You can use the Alignment actions for either source and target segment in this Alignment toolbar or use the usual actions (next, join and split segment) for both source and target segment at the same time. The Progressive segmentation is recommended in your case.
BTW, I am going to look into some alternative alignment implementations in the future.
The progressive alignment needs some getting used to. Use the center bar (between source and target segment editors) to join source or target segments separately. However, it only works that way if you are at the head of alignment progress. If you move back a few segments (e.g to review them) and join the reviewed/already aligned segments, the joining takes place both in the source and target segment. Just make sure you are joining yet unaligned segments and it should work as expected.
They should indeed work independently. Can you create a ticket?
>BTW, I am going to look into some alternative alignment implementations in the future.
Like a connector to or even integration*) of LFaligner?
*) Use of CafeTran's own abbrev. list etc.
>yes, but in this case unfortunately not useful, as LFAligner doesn't support Powerpoint :-)
CafeTran could handle the conversion part
>Igor explained to me yesterday regarding alignment that the buttons only work with progressive segmentation, not with the automatic one. This is a bit confusing, as the buttons are there, but cannot be used to join etc.
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I think it's perfectly acceptable that you can't use join/split in the automatic segmentation workflow. It's automatic, after all. But if you save the resulting (miss)aligned file in the hugely popular TMX format, and open it again in the Edit TM mode, you should be able to join/split, won't you?